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Filter driers?

Discussion in 'Residential' started by Randysmit1986, Jun 8, 2017.

  1. jamesyarbrough

    jamesyarbrough Amateur Gynecologist

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    Ive seen trane go both ways. Like rheem
     
  2. crackertech

    crackertech assholiness *

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    James you do know we don't bash brands here right. 99% of failures is due to a bad salesman and of a bad install,,, and all brands have piss poor QC
     
  3. mike1020

    mike1020 entitled millennial

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    Thought they only did that on the politically correct site
     
  4. jamesyarbrough

    jamesyarbrough Amateur Gynecologist

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    Oh yeah, for sure. I just like talking trash.


    I really do hate it when they put the drier before the service valve tho!
     
  5. mike1020

    mike1020 entitled millennial

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    I don't mind Bryant, or Arcoaire, or Comfortmaker, or Tempstar.

    But I would never install an ICP, it's no good.
     
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  6. jamesyarbrough

    jamesyarbrough Amateur Gynecologist

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    I dont like the electrical compartments on icp. Or the old flat top louvered ones either! They are just as much of a pita to work on as old goodman and amana.


    One thing ill say for carrier, when they build a pos (like the 2 stage bristol units) they make it easy to work on. Love the big access panels
     
  7. mike1020

    mike1020 entitled millennial

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    I had to work on some Dave Lennox Signature Series unit.

    What a pile of monkey poo.

    It had a fiberglass top that gave my arm a rash.
     
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  8. jamesyarbrough

    jamesyarbrough Amateur Gynecologist

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    Oh ****! Talk about pos lennox.
    I had a call on a 94 model 2 stage lennox. Thats a mess of a control system
     
  9. 22blood

    22blood red wire nuts only

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  10. LemonWizard

    LemonWizard Blinky Lights Wizard

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    And those units often end up with two driers because no one looks inside. :loltard:
     
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  11. Randysmit1986

    Randysmit1986 New Member

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  12. Randysmit1986

    Randysmit1986 New Member

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    Don't get me started on that dam Pulse Furnace
     
  13. frozensolid

    frozensolid Psychologist's Dream

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    They do that because of aholes who don't do it in the field.
     
  14. jamesyarbrough

    jamesyarbrough Amateur Gynecologist

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    Hell i just did that last month. Compressor change outs on an amana and goodman. Same house. Pulled the one out of the goodman. Got everything all back together and running and seen the drier in the amana. It has 2 now. :D
     
  15. jpb2

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    Driers are cheap insurance
     
  16. SmallChange

    SmallChange This Space for Rent

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    When I broke into this bidness, Dad was installing driers on any unit he opened up or any new system, condenser or coil put in. He didn't have or need a micron gauge he had this old belt driven vacuum pump and we would just use the gauges when it pinned the needle past 30" of vacuum and against the post, he would break the vacuum with r-22, way back before the days of the EPA non venting decrees.

    And we would fire the pump up again and do the same thing. Then just put the proper amount of gas in it etc. He would also put in a time delay relay on any new install, customers will move that tstat back and forth he use to say trying to get the system cooler,,,,,,, Hell, on burn outs when he was just changing the condenser he would hook up the liquid line to the new condenser and dump R-11 thru the line set , a-coil and I would have a rag over the suction line blowing all that crap and oil into a box and then we would throw driers on it and do the vacuum thing again and be done. All I can say is we never changed out a compressor in warranty way back when
     
  17. mike1020

    mike1020 entitled millennial

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    My parents air conditioning system was installed in 1989 and does not have a drier.

    The installer purged it with refrigerant and did not pull a vacuum.

    It's been 28 years and have not had any issues except a contactor and condenser fan motor.
     
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  18. 22blood

    22blood red wire nuts only

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    You can do that with r22
     
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  19. jays 65

    jays 65 New Member

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    yep and if she is beer can cold you are good 2 go
     
  20. oroy54

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    Well, I am going to stick my neck out again here. If you pull a vacuum on a unit for 15 to 30 minutes or less that should be fine. Now in saying that, there should be only ppm's of moisture in the unit. So the drier should adsorb the remaining ppm H20.
    However as I have seen, there is evaporator problems with leaks. I wonder if the drier is doing it's job in the first place?
    And what type of desiccant is in the drier? 13x is the way to go.
     
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